The "Bird and Baby" grows up: inside the new Eagle and Child

by Doctor_Feggon 12/4/24, 10:40 AMwith 26 comments
by Isamuon 12/4/24, 1:49 PM

This is the pub where Tolkien and Lewis met with their literary group the Inklings before moving across the street to the Lamb and Flag.

Title made it sound like it had reopened, but “The Eagle & Child will not reopen before 2027. Planning permission has not yet even been granted for the building conservation work, let alone the extensive restoration and revival.”

by seanhunteron 12/4/24, 6:03 PM

Mixed feelings about this.

On the one hand I am absolutely terrified for the future of anything touched by Larry Ellison. On the other hand, there is definitely scope for it to be improved- last time I went there (which was a long time ago admittedly) it was cool to be there because of its history etc but it wasn't that great an actual pub. Like if you're into historical drinking places somewhere like Ye Olde Cheshire Cheese near fleet street in London where Pepys and Boswell used to drink is a much better actual pub than I remember the Eagle and Child being at least the one or two times I went there.

by jgrahamcon 12/4/24, 3:22 PM

I am glad to see they are planning to keep the pub's weird layout of different rooms. A large part of the charm of drinking there was how it is/was laid out.

by arethuzaon 12/4/24, 2:27 PM

I wonder if Ellison will also buy the Eagle in Cambridge - which also has an interesting history:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eagle,_Cambridge

by dave333on 12/4/24, 9:29 PM

The other idiosyncratic pub in Oxford is the Turf Tavern to be found down some twisty passages off Holywell Street. But my 1970s Oxford undergrad experience was daily pie, beans, and chips in the much more normal Kings Arms opposite the Bodleian.

by relistanon 12/4/24, 4:52 PM

Did not realize it was closed. When I was there maybe 15 years ago it was in quite a lot better state. Re-opening it at all, given all the pub closures, is a good thing. That it will more or less be kept intact is a big bonus.

by adampwellson 12/4/24, 10:18 PM

Check out the fingers on the AI generated images!

by rossdavidhon 12/4/24, 6:01 PM

I've been there once, and it was quite cozy and nice; I would have liked it a good bit even if there had been no Inklings in its history (although that certainly added something). Their plans for it sound good, I hope they follow through!

by nimishon 12/4/24, 3:52 PM

Glad to see it'll still be around just as weird and charming as it was.

by yannis7on 12/4/24, 2:26 PM

the USENIX YouTube link took me down quite the rabbit hole

by svthon 12/5/24, 12:27 AM

End of an era. Used to go there in the 90s. Now everything belongs to shitty, worthless Silicon Valley adventurers.

by stuaxoon 12/5/24, 1:45 PM

A non drinking billionaire to take over a pub, it will be suprising if this goes well.