Teen mathematicians tie knots through a mind-blowing fractal

by GavCoon 11/26/24, 6:43 PMwith 68 comments
by lovegrenobleon 11/26/24, 8:13 PM

A browser puzzle, based on "Knot Theory". Not sure I learned anything from playing this, but that was fun:

https://brainteaser.top/knot/index.html

by rizs12on 11/27/24, 12:35 AM

Quanta looks like a magnificent magazine. Thank you for bringing it into my life! This is the first time I've come across it

by Koshkinon 11/26/24, 8:31 PM

> Every knot is “homeomorphic” to the circle

Here's an explanation:

https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/3791238/introductio...

by glialon 11/26/24, 10:29 PM

I love quanta so much. I wish there were a print version.

by calibason 11/27/24, 7:32 PM

> a tetrahedral version of the Menger sponge

Better known as a Sierpiński tetrahedron, AKA the 3d version of a Sierpiński triangle.

by err4nton 11/27/24, 5:11 PM

Can anyone explain why they bothered with the fractal at all, instead of using a 3 dimensional grid? Doesn't a grid of the appropriate resolution provide the exact same? Or is it to show that they can do everything within even a subset of a 3D grid limited in this way?

by MengerSpongeon 11/26/24, 8:50 PM

This is relevant to my interests

by singularity2001on 11/27/24, 7:49 PM

I love that the proof is so elementary and understandable ( almost reminiscent of the Pythagorean theorem proofs) yet it might have some significance

by dpig_on 11/27/24, 12:47 AM

Super cool. I would have liked to have seen a similar visualisation for how they solved it on the Sierpinski gasket.

by itronitronon 11/27/24, 10:18 AM

Interesting, I'm tempted to apply this towards routing minecart rails in Minecraft.

by nsoonhuion 11/26/24, 11:49 PM

Sorry to ask this, but is the result itself significant enough to the community, if it's not discovered by teens?

by RoboTeddyon 11/26/24, 11:40 PM

Quanta Magazine consistently explains mathematics/physics for an advanced lay audience in ways that don't terribly oversimplify / still expose you to the true ideas. It's really nice! I don't know of any other sources like this.

by julianeonon 11/26/24, 11:02 PM

I've always wondered if it's possible to harness teen minds to solve significant math problems in high school, if you formulated them well and found the right scope. I think it's possible.

by emptiestplaceon 11/26/24, 10:23 PM

> But most important, the fractal possesses various counterintuitive mathematical properties. Continue to pluck out ever smaller pieces, and what started off as a cube becomes something else entirely. After infinitely many iterations, the shape’s volume dwindles to zero, while its surface area grows infinitely large.

I'm struggling to understand what is counterintuitive here. Am I missing something?

Also, it's still (always) going to be in the shape of a cube. And if we are going to argue otherwise, we can do that without invoking infinity—technically it's not a cube after even a single iteration.

This feels incredibly sloppy to me.