With it becoming Thunderbird branded my biggest wish is proper subfolder support. Seeing folders as Archives.2024.invoices.paid rather than a nice collapsable list makes mail management a right pain.
It's also one of the oldest request on the github https://github.com/thunderbird/thunderbird-android/issues/63...
I use Fastmail, and have found their Android app to be functional, but lackluster (no offline access being one of my biggest gripes). I hadn't used Thunderbird on the desktop in a good 15-20 years, so I figured I'd give this a try.
It is very snappy (unlike how I remember desktop Thunderbird all those years ago), and seems to work well so far, though it's a little bare-bones feature-wise. One thing that is unfortunate is it doesn't appear to be able to recognize Fastmail's "pinned" messages and map them to "starred" messages. That alone will keep Fastmail's own app on my phone.
Fastmail also has different actions for marking as spam and reporting phishing; I'm not sure how effective the latter is, but of course Thunderbird doesn't support it, as presumably that's a Fastmail-proprietary thing.
I'll probably keep it and see if it can serve as my daily driver, with the Fastmail app as a fallback for pinned messages for now.
I've been happy with FairEmail but I think I will give this a try when it hits F-Droid. At this stage it's mainly curiosity, but if they get new features like sync with desktop down the line it will be great.
Is there any way to get push notifications instead of polling? My email provider is Fastmail, maybe there are some kind of IMAP extensions that can do this?
I do not know how it is financed, but I would rather have them use these funds to fix desktop version first.
Content advisory: longish rant ahead.
I have 4 email accounts: 2 Gmail, 1 Outlook, and 1 ProtonMail. I also use Google Calendar and Outlook Calendar. The reason I switched to Thunderbird was to manage them all in one uniform UI instead of keeping 6 open tabs.
I tried hard to love it, but after about 6 months, I am ready to give up. The main annoyance is that I cannot see sent and received messages in a single thread. I know this feature is coming soon, but I do not know how long to wait.
The second problem is that Thunderbird’s search, frankly, sucks. For example, while focused on a folder, if I start a search, it doesn't automatically narrow it to that folder; it searches across all my mail. I've noticed that when I need to find something, I open the Gmail web interface.
Finally, there are bugs. Most of them are relatively minor, but combined, they ruin my user experience. There are strange calendar event reminders that will not go away, bugs when event modifications do not sync to the server, and the most bizarre bug: when I reply to my own message, it sets the FROM field to one of the recipients, making it look like I’m faking someone’s email. Sometimes, when I reply to an HTML-heavy message, the editor in my reply starts in white font on a white background, so I cannot see what I’m typing until I change it. Etc.
I do not want to belittle the hard work all the developers put into Thunderbird. It’s a very complex piece of open-source software that does many good things. It just seems to fall a little short.
So, I am seriously contemplating giving up and going back to the web interfaces for my respective email accounts.
Why didn't they just rename K-9 instead? I just gave it a try and it really is just K-9 with slight UI tweaks.
Nice but there are a zillion mobile e-mail clients already. What I really wish is a good desktop e-mail client for Linux that I can use for enterprise use: - Thunderbird is heavy, slow and the UI feels dated - KMail was very advanced 15-20 years ago but it's lagged behind and even HTML e-mail is semibroken today - evolution... well, let's say it has not really evolved in the past 10 years, since Red Hat lost interest in the desktop - others (Geary, Trojita, etc) are toys and unfit for enterprise usage
After decades of a love/hate relationship with thunderbird mail reader, I sure hope this isn't the beginning of the end of decent email on android 8-/
K-9 also has it's faults, but it's been a pretty good ophone mail reader.
Thunderbird, under the ever declining mozilla foundation's wing, continues to make nonsensical changes while still failing to fetch mail into all IMAP folders (among a number of other fundamental functional failures).
Is there a reason why Mozilla haven't used their position and funding to just hoover up all the most successful open source projects to create a more cohesive ecosystem?
Surely any addons - like uBlock Origin - which have massive usage should just be baked in to the browser by this point?
The likes of Nextcloud and Mattermost would also be great additions in trying to create a true rival to Microsoft and Google's offerings.
Gives open source projects funding and development, Mozilla gets new avenues for subscription money to try and be more independent, and MS/Google's market shares can be chipped away at. Win win win. Potential anti-trust bait when Google start crying and withdrawing funding, too.
Moving an item to the trash in Android TB (IMAP) doesn't seem to actually move it on the server. Webmail still shows it in the inbox. I see it in the trash in Android, but it refuses to let me move it out of the trash there, saying, "Cannot copy or move a message that is not synchronized with the server". The synchronize button and restarting don't have an effect.
Is this a bug or do I have some misunderstanding about IMAP and a misconfiguration?
K-9 deletes as expected.
This is great. I suppose the improvements will arrive soon. I used to use Thunderbird on Android long ago. (K-9 has done it's part in filling the gap sincce then.) It has always been a neat system to use - Thunderbird on desktops, and on cell phones(used to be on iphones also, I think.) though not linked, the same freedom of self mail control. A very good way to archive all your mail, as you want, without externalities. IMAP and PoP.
It's sad what cketti did to K9 after 5.6. I don't have any hope for the future of K9/Android Thunderbird anymore.
I'll try to do it less snarky than others but;
This is fine, but frankly we'd love to see resources toward returning Thunderbird to be the more open thing it once was.
Losing the robust plugin system was incredibly frustrating; like, all I want is the ability to have custom colored accounts back.
Am I crazy or is it a bad idea to download all your emails into your phone?
I believe they will be deleting K-9 from play store after giving its users adequate warming and informing them assuaging them. It's just K-9 right now named Thunderbird. I hope they bring in some important Thunderbird desktop features to mobile as well. The release is underwhelming if not downright disappointing.
Other than nostalgia, what makes this email client so special?
Does it do NNTP?
Right when there are better alternatives (fastmail, proton, etc). Another bonus-worthy move by Mozilla's CEO!
They are keeping both:
"Quite a few people seem to love K-9 Mail and have asked us to keep the robot dog around. We believe it should be relatively little effort to build two apps from one code base. The apps would be virtually identical and only differ in app name, app icon, and the color scheme. So our current plan is to keep K-9 Mail around."
https://blog.thunderbird.net/2023/12/when-will-thunderbird-f...